tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1525029919152863102024-03-12T21:47:06.351-07:00Strange TearsA kind of spin-off of my Strange Tears community at Livejournal, but dealing with 20th century art as well as that of the 19th century. Even some photography. You won't find any abstract art here though. There will be nudes though, so if you have a problem with that you've been warned.dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comBlogger715125truetag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-36066773931842561922022-08-31T22:58:00.000-07:002022-08-31T22:58:15.578-07:00Félix-Jacques Antoine Moulin (1802-1875)Félix-Jacques Antoine Moulin (1802-1875), French photographer.
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Félix-Jacques Antoine Moulin, Nude woman in colored daguerreotype, circa 1851–1854
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Félix-Jacques Antoine Moulin, Recumbent female nude, Amélie, 1852–1853dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-12849654110172167072022-08-08T08:43:00.000-07:002022-08-08T08:43:39.297-07:00Charles William Mitchell (1854–1903)Charles William Mitchell (1854–1903), English Pre-Raphaelite painter.
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Charles William Mitchell, The Spirit of Songdfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-62514540480851783942022-07-16T03:17:00.000-07:002022-07-16T03:17:15.498-07:00Lothar von Seebach (1853-1930)Lothar von Seebach (1853-1930), Alsatian artist.
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Lothar von Seebach, The Temptation, 1912dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-29170990358251197962022-07-07T05:17:00.001-07:002022-07-07T08:14:48.350-07:00Julien Mandel (1893–1961)Julien Mandel (1893-1961), photographer.
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Julien Mandel, Alice Prin AKA Kiki de Montparnasse
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Julien Mandel, Alice Prin AKA Kiki de Montparnasse
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Julien Mandel, Alice Prin AKA Kiki de Montparnasse
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Julien Mandel, Akt mit Schuhendfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-80455546852254264402022-04-06T21:54:00.000-07:002022-04-06T21:54:49.382-07:00Giulio Aristide Sartorio (1860-1932)Giulio Aristide Sartorio (1860-1932), Italian painter.
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Giulio Aristide Sartorio, La Gorgone e gli eroi, 1897dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-50786320592969510922022-02-19T17:41:00.000-08:002022-02-19T17:41:32.618-08:00Alexandre Jacques Chantron (1842-1918)Alexandre Jacques Chantron (1842-1918), French artist and photographer.
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Alexandre Jacques Chantron, Danae, 1891
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Alexandre Jacques Chantron, Diana at her bath
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Alexandre Jacques Chantron, Femme au bilboquet
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Alexandre Jacques Chantron, La Coquette
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Alexandre Jacques Chantron, Les Nymphes s’amusent
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Alexandre Jacques Chantron, Plaisirs de l’ete, 1907dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-55113140476128103082021-10-01T01:02:00.000-07:002021-10-01T01:02:54.996-07:00Marcel Châtelain (active 1898-1930)Marcel Châtelain (known as Eugène, active 1898-1930)
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Marcel Châtelain, Femmes nues, dans un riad
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Marcel Châtelain, Jeune femme à la cigarette, vers 1904
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Marcel Châtelain, Nu au jasmin, vers 1904dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-6629617635660585252021-09-16T14:24:00.000-07:002021-09-16T14:24:53.341-07:00Alexander Koester (1864-1932)Alexander Koester (1864-1932), German painter.
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Alexander Koester, Sprintgtimedfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-1203815542837451942021-09-10T21:09:00.001-07:002021-09-10T21:09:18.559-07:00John Singer Sargent (1856-1925)John Singer Sargent (1856-1925), American artist.
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John Singer Sargent, Study of an Egyptian Girldfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-55601553523096457522021-09-03T00:54:00.000-07:002021-09-03T00:54:09.788-07:00Whores in History<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjUPwi06s6nWFSOqYes9j8ZWQv6geFKNkkIdtmW4XzqMf8VTcXbJZB5mLtT_0r8UvXxYgXyyUlUTbP_WVSVv49OSM76ervp_3iY0_BSDXkJx39UBvFEEnjGOwdnicGcr5TmnRr3VAFHB2kz/s474/Whores+in+History2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="474" data-original-width="314" height="200" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjUPwi06s6nWFSOqYes9j8ZWQv6geFKNkkIdtmW4XzqMf8VTcXbJZB5mLtT_0r8UvXxYgXyyUlUTbP_WVSVv49OSM76ervp_3iY0_BSDXkJx39UBvFEEnjGOwdnicGcr5TmnRr3VAFHB2kz/w133-h200/Whores+in+History2.jpg" width="133" /></a></div><i>Whores in History</i> by Nickie Roberts is an attempt at an in-depth history of prostitution in the West. The author admits that she is not unbiased (as a former stripper she considers herself to be a sex worker) but she’s actually rather less biased than most authors who have tackled this subject. She makes it clear up-front that she favours the complete legalisation of prostitution. Interestingly enough she’s as critical of feminists as she is of moral crusaders.<br /><br />Her accounts of the various different forms of prostitution that existed in classic Greece and ancient Rome are fascinating. I knew that of course there would have been expensive courtesans and cheap streetwalkers but I had no idea that there were so many distinctively different varieties of prostitute in the ancient world, each with a different social status. Prostitution was simply taken for granted in the ancient pagan world. The rise of Christianity changed all that.<br /><br />In spite of Christian hostility to sex the Dark Ages and the Middle Ages were in practice surprisingly easy-going in sexual matters. The mediävel Church may have ben corrupt but it was tolerant and often humane. The Reformation and the Counter-Reformation put an end to tolerance. But efforts to persecute prostitutes were notably unsuccessful and the profession continued to thrive until the moral reformers of the late 19th century appeared on the scene. The moral reformers were horrified by the things they saw in working class areas. Working class people were, despite their ghastly lives, managing to enjoy themselves - they were drinking, dancing, singing, making jokes and carousing with prostitutes. They had to be stopped. <br /><br />The moral reformers were nice respectable middle-class people. They were distressed by the plight of the poor but they were not prepared to consider that maybe that plight was the result of an unjust economic system that ruthlessly and mercilessly exploited the working class, especially working class women (wages for working class women in “respectable” occupations were either starvation level or below starvation level and the work was unbelievably gruelling). It was after all that unjust economic system that made those nice respectable middle-class people so prosperous. Another explanation had to be found, and it was. They decided that the plight of the working class was a result of the immorality and viciousness of working-class people. It was all their own fault. So nice respectable middle-class people didn’t need to feel guilty after all. And surely the most wicked of all those wicked working class people were the prostitutes. The fact that the prostitutes made enough money to afford decent housing and decent food just proved how wicked and sinful they were.<br /><br />The 19th century was the great age of prostitute rescue. Pious moral reformers put the whores into homes where they could be taught respectable middle class values. These homes were in practice prisons. The girls were taught respectable trades to fit them for a life of never-ending toil and drudgery for starvation wages but at least they wouldn’t be upsetting nice respectable middle-class people any more.<br /><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg9F9fnGf5DMpGr3RYwt9V48cq_P68V0Pb8DYlEjbrTulK3_Ti7vPjIC7WZi5gcBhmxBEIiRfxEkQ-OpHALiVoXWmMRl_4rWHdA6bUGp-XPNziUb5AsX1b1GxR3ZkaTA8YH8EM_lovRHfal/s500/Whores+in+History1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="500" data-original-width="333" height="200" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg9F9fnGf5DMpGr3RYwt9V48cq_P68V0Pb8DYlEjbrTulK3_Ti7vPjIC7WZi5gcBhmxBEIiRfxEkQ-OpHALiVoXWmMRl_4rWHdA6bUGp-XPNziUb5AsX1b1GxR3ZkaTA8YH8EM_lovRHfal/w133-h200/Whores+in+History1.jpg" width="133" /></a></div>One of the key points that Roberts makes is that efforts to suppress prostitution were invariably aimed at working class prostitutes who catered for working class and lower middle class customers. The moral reformers were careful not to interfere with the pleasures of the rich and powerful.<br /><br />She also points out that for working class girls prostitution was often by far the best career option available. Prostitutes on the whole enjoyed a much higher standard of living and were healthier, better housed, better fed and better clothed than respectable working class women. Their working conditions were immeasurably better. Many had the temerity to enjoy their lives. It was the relative prosperity and well-being of working class prostitutes that seemed to enrage the moral reformers more than anything else, added to the fact that so many prostitutes stubbornly refused to die young but instead eventually married or started small businesses with their earnings. <br /><br />The book gets really interesting when it gets to the early 20th century. In the US this was the great age of Progressivism. The progressives succeeded in getting draconian anti-prostitution laws passed, the result of which was to put prostitution in the hands of organised crime. In most European countries similar approaches were taken, all of which made life miserable for whores but made nice respectable middle-class people feel really good about themselves. Then the feminists got in on the act. Feminists didn’t want men telling women how to live their lives. Henceforth feminists would tell women how to live their lives, and women would have to listen to the feminists, or face the consequences.<br /><br />Even if you’re uncomfortable with her idea that prostitution should be completely legal and unregulated it has to be admitted that Roberts makes a very strong case. It’s hard to argue with her assessment that trying to regulate prostitution just leads to police corruption and abuses of power. Roberts also doesn’t take a simplistic political view. She points out that socialist regimes have been just as sexually repressive as capitalist ones, and she clearly (and rightly) dislikes the strand of feminism that seeks to control women’s sexuality. She also (correctly) points out the links between censorship (all too often driven by hostility to women’s sexuality and fear of women’s bodies) and attempts to control women’s sexual behaviour.<br /><br />It’s a book that makes a complex but compelling argument. If you only ever read one book on the subject of prostitution this is the one to read. You may not agree with her but she’ll get you thinking. And in the current age of neo-puritanism the book is more relevant than ever.dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-57671646816491997092021-08-29T08:39:00.000-07:002021-08-29T08:39:45.583-07:00orientalist photographyOrientalism was one of the more interesting artistic manifestations of the late 19th century. I have no desire to rehash any of the political arguments on this subject since I dislike the politicisation of art. Suffice to say that in the late 19th century European, British and American artists were obsessed by the exotic. <br /><br />
They were also obsessed by the erotic. The combination of the exotic and the erotic always makes for a heady brew.<br /><br />
Artists who flocked to North Africa and the Middle East (and sometimes further east) did not just take canvasses and their paintbrushes with them. They also took cameras.
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Algérie, Jeunes Femmes Photochrome originale d'époque, Circa 1890
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Algérie, Bédouines du Sud, Photochrome originale d'époque, Circa 1890
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Algérie, Femmes Mauresques, Photochrome originale d'époque, Circa 1890
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Algérie, Jeune Fille du Sud, Photochrome originale d'époque, Circa 1890
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Algérie. Jeunes Femmes Mauresques. Photochrome originale d'époque. Circa 1891
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Nu au jasmin, vers 1904
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Afrique du nord au repos
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Une belle fille du sud
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Jeune mauresque nue
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Types d'Oriendfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-73064180366387882702021-08-27T11:59:00.003-07:002021-08-27T11:59:53.263-07:00Harlots, Whores and Hookers<div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgN-4_Ho2hgnr0qYtmRplyzRG5_GUcyG5aZJHynOA8h6y6VPuVViXcWGYz1ioyNSR7SxiMSEO-YSioAJBXztbKBwXFSvWFriFevnmPYGCnMELtJoMqfJvpQbQyiQe56ub1hol-sPBgNcbAV/s500/Harlots+Whores+and+Hookers.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="500" data-original-width="332" height="200" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgN-4_Ho2hgnr0qYtmRplyzRG5_GUcyG5aZJHynOA8h6y6VPuVViXcWGYz1ioyNSR7SxiMSEO-YSioAJBXztbKBwXFSvWFriFevnmPYGCnMELtJoMqfJvpQbQyiQe56ub1hol-sPBgNcbAV/w133-h200/Harlots+Whores+and+Hookers.jpg" width="133" /></a></div>I hope I got you attention with the title of this post. <i>Harlots, Whores and Hookers</i> is an entertaining if not particularly scholarly history of prostitution. And the social history of the 19th century is one of the focuses of this blog (or at least it was intended to be one of the focuses).</div><br />He takes the story back about as far as it can be traced, to the historical rise of temple prostitution in ancient times.<br /><br />He tries to be fairly even-handed, admitting abuses when they existed although it’s fairly obvious that he takes the entirely sane view that most of the abuses are either the result of attempts to prohibit prostitution, or are exacerbated by such attempts. At the time he wrote the book (1979) it still seemed possible that western societies would learn to deal with sex in a rational grown-up manner.<br /><br />Much of the book is devoted to cataloguing the repeat attempts to suppress prostitution and the inevitable failure of all those attempts. Failures which usually just made things worse for everybody. Evans seems to favour the idea of legalised but government-regulated prostitution, which is at least saner than attempts at prohibition (although the argument could be made that government regulation could make things worse).<br /><br />He’s not inclined to see prostitutes as victims, pointing out that for most of history prostitution was a better option for women than supposedly respectable occupations which paid a pittance. He also explodes the myth that most prostitutes come to a bad end. Some prostitutes certainly have come to a bad end, but most have eventually married and blended into respectable society and some have done very nicely for themselves.<div><br /></div><div>The book does deal briefly with the subject of prostitution in the 19th century, which is of course the period that interests me most.<br /><br />The book is an interesting throwback to a time when it was still possible to discuss social problems in an intelligent and reasonable way. Not a great book but not bad as a brief introduction to the subject.</div>dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-11417572335454876152021-08-22T14:27:00.000-07:002021-08-22T14:27:04.453-07:00Pierre-Gérard Carrier-Belleuse (1851-1932)Pierre-Gérard Carrier-Belleuse (1851-1932), French painter.
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Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, Femme en déshabillé vert, 1889
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Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, Young Lady Adjusting her Corset, 1893
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Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, La frileuse, 1894
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Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, Nu sous un parasol, 1890
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Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, La Première Pose, 1900
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Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, Reveil
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Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, Un nu, 1897dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-43957296509730067502021-08-15T16:03:00.000-07:002021-08-15T16:03:56.207-07:00Jean Agélou (1878-1921)Jean Agélou (1878-1921), French photographer.
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Jean Agélou, Fernande
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Jean Agélou, Fernande
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Jean Agélou, Serie 034 No 2
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Jean Agélou, Serie 034 No 3
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Jean Agélou, Seated nude smoking
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Jean Agélou, Seated nude female, circa 1920
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Jean Agélou, Female nude posed under a garden archdfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-55803502638918694472021-08-11T19:00:00.000-07:002021-08-11T19:00:34.660-07:00Paul Désiré Trouillebert (1829-1900)Paul Désiré Trouillebert (1829-1900), French painter.
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Paul Désiré Trouillebert, The Nude Snake Charmer
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Paul Désiré Trouillebert, Servante du harem (The Harem Servant Girl), 1874dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-63892679580006344542021-08-05T20:23:00.003-07:002021-08-05T21:45:14.239-07:00Gaudenzio Marconi (1841-1885)Gaudenzio Marconi (1841-1885), Italian photographer. His photographs were intended to be used by art students. From the start photography’s status as an art form was a subject of debate and disagreement but there were major artists who used such photographic studies as supplements to the use of live models. Whether these photographic studies qualify as art works is perhaps also debatable but clearly they were very much in the style of fashionable painting of the era.<br /><br />
Are they art or erotica? It’s fair to say that they were intended as art, and function as well in that capacity as the paintings of the average second-tier painter. There is of course something about photography that makes nudity seem more graphic. Partly it’s because photographs showed things that painters tended to be coy about showing, such as female pubic hair. Which made nude photographs more shocking, especially to those who were uncomfortable with the idea that women had genitals. So photography did have a tendency to make nudity seem somehow less respectable.<br /><br />
And when you look at a painting of a nude you can perhaps convince yourself that you’re looking at an allegorical figure or the goddess Venus. Photographs make it a bit more obvious that one is looking at an actual nude woman. Naked goddesses are one thing, but a photograph of an actual naked woman is something else.<br /><br />
Photography forced people to ask themselves whether they really thought that the naked female body was obscene. For some people the answer was yes.
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<i>Gaudenzio Marconi, Female nude with pictorial backdrop 1870-1879</i>
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<i>Gaudenzio Marconi, Nude Study</i>
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<i>Gaudenzio Marconi, Nudo accademico femminile con violino</i>
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<i>Gaudenzio Marconi, Nudo femminile, circa 1870</i>
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<i>Gaudenzio Marconi, Nudes and cherubs (putti)</i>
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<i>Gaudenzio Marconi, Nude Study</i>dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-4185553595423782232021-08-04T12:25:00.000-07:002021-08-04T12:25:41.507-07:00art, photography and the erotic in the 19th century<div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgR2mxCa1bU6kyhQ1XF9H9doErNEcsneSEloS3AB89BWmnbMJ7TcGGob0874jxrtKwKSVWbCjeOiRi0GHCgvIRcWTSxEyCScB1GoPjSzMzh7EMhi1hJc_Xf_GuWZZcD-QdstWTduMWXDzOf/s1186/Boucher%25E2%2580%2599s+Portrait+of+Marie-Louis+O%25E2%2580%2599Murphy.jpg" style="display: block; padding: 1em 0; text-align: center; "><img alt="" border="0" width="320" data-original-height="965" data-original-width="1186" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgR2mxCa1bU6kyhQ1XF9H9doErNEcsneSEloS3AB89BWmnbMJ7TcGGob0874jxrtKwKSVWbCjeOiRi0GHCgvIRcWTSxEyCScB1GoPjSzMzh7EMhi1hJc_Xf_GuWZZcD-QdstWTduMWXDzOf/s320/Boucher%25E2%2580%2599s+Portrait+of+Marie-Louis+O%25E2%2580%2599Murphy.jpg"/></a></div>
<i>François Boucher, Portrait of Marie-Louise O'Murphy c. 1752</i><br /><br />
Photography has always had an uneasy relationship with art. From the time photography became a practical proposition in the mid 19th century it attracted the interest of artists, for various reasons. Some painters liked the idea of being able to work from photographs rather than live models, live models having a tendency to complain bitterly about having to keep still.<br /><br />
Artists were also interested in the potential of photography as an art form in itself. Whether photography really does (or can) qualify as art was a subject of controversy and to this day not everyone is convinced that photography is “real” art.<br /><br />
A major difficulty arose when the famous “box brownie” arrived on the scene. Suddenly anyone could take photographs. A means had to be found to distinguish between the snapshots taken by ordinary people and art photographs taken by “proper” artists. To be honest no-one has ever been to do that other than by saying that photographs taken by real artists are art and photographs taken by non-artists are not art. Of course there is a difference between a photograph that is art and a mere snapshot but the difference is essentially subjective. We may not be able to define art but we know it when we see it. Except that no two people see it the same way.<br /><br />
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<i>Félix-Jacques Antoine Moulin, Recumbent female nude, Amélie, 1852–1853</i><br /><br />
The blurry line between photos as art and photos as non-art becomes particularly problematic when we’re dealing with erotic subject matter. Erotic art is a pretty fraught subject even when we’re dealing with painting. Everyone knows that Boucher’s Portrait of Marie-Louis O’Murphy is art and a pinup painting isn’t, even though the subject matter of Boucher’s painting is just a painting of a pretty girl lounging naked on a sofa. <br /><br />
Maybe it’s something to do with the intention of the artist or the photographer? Surely when great painters painted naked ladies they had allegorical or symbolic intentions? Undoubtedly that’s true in many cases, but it’s not that easy to see profound meanings in Boucher’s painting. Of course it’s possible that when M. Boucher asked Mademoiselle O’Murphy to disrobe and take up her pose he was immediately overcome by the desire to create great art that would offer profound spiritual insights into the meaning of life. Or maybe he was just overcome by awe at the young lady’s beauty. Perhaps he exclaimed, “Sacre bleu, what a magnificent opportunity for allegory.” Or perhaps he just exclaimed, “Sacre bleu, what a delicious derriere.”<br /><br />
Sometimes a beautiful nude girl is just a beautiful nude girl, even when painted by an artist.<br /><br />
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When it comes to erotic photography things get tricky. Obviously a painting of a pretty girl lounging naked on a sofa is art but what about a photograph of more or less the same subject? Is it art if the photographer went to art school? Is it more OK if it’s a really old photograph? Is Félix-Jacques Moulin’s daguerrotype of a naked young lady acceptable in a way that a 1960s centrefold is not? People at the time didn’t think do, since Moulin went to prison for taking such photographs. François Boucher did not go to prison for painting Mlle O’Murphy without her clothes on.<br /><br />
Maybe it’s the technical or aesthetic quality of the image. As paintings of naked females go Boucher’s is unquestionably very very good. He was a very technically accomplished painter. But many of the photographers who took photos for girlie magazines in the 1950s and 1960s were very technically accomplished photographers. Boucher’s painting is well composed and aesthetically pleasing. But it’s difficult to deny that the centrefold shown here is also well composed and aesthetically pleasing. In both cases the object was to emphasis the attractiveness of the young lady’s posterior and I think both Boucher and the 1960s photographer managed to do that.<br /><br />
Is the desire to celebrate female beauty an insufficient justification for art? Clearly art can do many other things besides celebrate feminine beauty, but does that mean that paintings or photographs that are primarily or solely concerned with the celebration of female beauty cannot be art?<br /><br />
For the past century or so we have become accustomed to the idea that important art should be ugly and unpleasant and have a political purpose. Is it possible that it’s OK for art to celebrate beauty?<br /><br />
What all this rambling is leading up to is that I’m intending to do a lot more posts on the subject of 19th century and early 20th century photography. Since in my opinion the most interesting photographs of that era were photographs of women and those photographs are very often somewhat erotic (or even very erotic). Some of the images will undoubtedly occupy that uncomfortable “is it erotic art or is it just erotica” region.dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-28136386103840378632021-08-01T05:03:00.000-07:002021-08-01T05:03:08.394-07:00Félicien Rops (1833-1898)Félicien Rops (1833-1898), Belgian Symbolist painter, illustrator and print maker.
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Félicien Rops, La Dame au pantin, 1885
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Félicien Rops, title unknown
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Félicien Rops, Appel Aux Masses!
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Félicien Rops, Diaboli Virtus In Lumbis, 1888
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Félicien Rops, La Pudeur de Sodome
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Félicien Rops, In the Wings, 1878-1880
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Félicien Rops, Le paravent
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Félicien Rops, Parisian Masks, heliogravure
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Félicien Rops, title unknown
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Félicien Rops,
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Félicien Rops, Prostitution and Madness Rule the World. ca.1887-1893, heliogravure
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Félicien Rops, Cent légers croquis sans prétention pour réjouir les honnêtes gens, 1878-1881.dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-19081030696415156922021-07-23T09:23:00.000-07:002021-07-23T09:23:45.096-07:00David Kunzle’s Fashion and Fetishism <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQtuS8MnFXYByWpleWnDUFO4aWsdCJrxSCcv2qIcwg1NZ7N6wH9T2N9h3SCYjl2Nf-7mxgc_o0GYFt7PfWhEI1Z9LM03PKmxvWck1wWRVteW6FJvSEhUePkQZLAoAnG1LdBi1HFI9ElmKc/s630/Fashion+and+Fetishism1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="630" data-original-width="438" height="200" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQtuS8MnFXYByWpleWnDUFO4aWsdCJrxSCcv2qIcwg1NZ7N6wH9T2N9h3SCYjl2Nf-7mxgc_o0GYFt7PfWhEI1Z9LM03PKmxvWck1wWRVteW6FJvSEhUePkQZLAoAnG1LdBi1HFI9ElmKc/w139-h200/Fashion+and+Fetishism1.jpg" width="139" /></a></div>David Kunzle’s <i>Fashion and Fetishism</i> is a fascinating look at the tight-lacing phenomenon which was such a controversial feature of the 19th century. <br /><br />Tight-lacing wasn’t just the wearing of corsets. It was the use of corsets to produce spectacular reductions in women’s waistlines, with waists as small as 16 inches and even in a few celebrated cases as small as 14 inches. Some women even claimed 13-inch waists. <br /><br />The conventional interpretation of tight-lacing is that it was an example of patriarchal oppression of women, with women forced by men into tight-lacing. This interpretation is still the orthodox feminist position. Kunzle explodes this interpretation in devastating fashion, and he backs his arguments with overwhelming evidence.<br /><br /><div>Kunzle demonstrates that the entire patriarchal power structure (and in particular the male medical establishment) conducted a vicious and hysterical campaign against tight-lacing. The whole phenomenon was driven almost entirely by women who, despite opposition from men, wanted to tight-lace. It was also mostly a lower class and lower middle class thing. The motives of the women were mixed but there was certainly an indirect erotic element. Or perhaps it would be better to say, a sensual element. It was a fetish, but not an overtly sexual one.<br /><br />Surprisingly enough tight-lacing was also widely practised by men.<br /><br />Kunzle also explores other clothing fetishes such as extreme high heels, which were also things that women stubbornly insisted on wearing in spite of male opposition, and they insisted on it because they actually enjoyed it.<br /><br />Another popular misconception is that erotic fetishism is an almost exclusively male obsession, and this is another myth that Kunzle busts. It’s a myth based on an unwillingness to accept unsettling aspects of female sexuality.<br /><br />The author gives us an historical overview and a glimpse into the hidden world of 20th century fetishism, as well as plenty of interesting details on the treatment of clothing fetishes in the popular press and in fiction.<br /><br />Kunzle does have a tendency to overdo the political interpretations (sometimes a corset is just a corset), but in this respect he’s nowhere near as bad as most modern academics. One mistake that he does not make is to make assumptions about women’s choices based on political beliefs about what women should think. He’s prepared to accept their own testimony about the reasons for their choices.<br /><br />It’s a rather loosely structured book but that turns out to be its greatest strength. He’s not trying to argue a case or win an argument. He’s simply acting as a fascinated but impartial observer.<br /><br /><i>Fashion and Fetishism</i> is a must-read for anyone with an interest in 19th century social history or fashion history. Highly recommended.<br /></div>dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-89260020799383008452021-03-05T12:01:00.001-08:002021-03-05T12:02:45.959-08:00Lawton S. Parker (1868-1954)Lawton S. Parker (1868-1954), American impressionist painter.<br /><br /><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7t_wcRp4MS6BORPgJZIfc-yQ4WW_kZ9U8vKM6lRZJTxnW8ACq0ePnw280fTijc4J3KAprbxPYw8UopuU9_ifli-v32KR5-n5deM0oNWBV_U0teM0_1h_amYTBeNWIvZz2o6yxnXPsr-q3/s1793/Lawton+S.+Parker%252C+La+Paresse%252C+1916.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1693" data-original-width="1793" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7t_wcRp4MS6BORPgJZIfc-yQ4WW_kZ9U8vKM6lRZJTxnW8ACq0ePnw280fTijc4J3KAprbxPYw8UopuU9_ifli-v32KR5-n5deM0oNWBV_U0teM0_1h_amYTBeNWIvZz2o6yxnXPsr-q3/s320/Lawton+S.+Parker%252C+La+Paresse%252C+1916.jpg" width="320" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><p class="p1" style="-webkit-text-stroke-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 12px; font-stretch: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-align: start;"><span class="s1" style="font-kerning: none;">Lawton S. Parker, La Paresse, 1916</span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><br />dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-31097391158230359942020-12-01T07:04:00.000-08:002020-12-01T07:04:03.374-08:00Paul Peel (1860-1892)Paul Peel (1860-1892), Canadian academic painter.
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<span class="s1" style="font-kerning: none;">Paul Peel, Lady in the Garden</span></div>
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dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-51413352641299098042020-11-01T05:01:00.000-08:002020-11-01T05:01:33.359-08:00Thomas Millie Dow (1848-1919)Thomas Millie Dow (1848-1919), Scottish painter.
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<span class="s1" style="font-kerning: none;">Thomas Millie Dow (1848-1919), Scottish painter.</span></div>
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<span class="s1" style="font-kerning: none;">Thomas Millie Dow, The Kelpie, 1895</span></div>
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dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-26421172482986300732020-09-30T23:30:00.000-07:002020-09-30T23:30:52.523-07:00William Thomas Smedley (1858–1920)William Thomas Smedley (1858–1920), American painter.
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<span class="s1">William Thomas Smedley, Society Girl</span></div>
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<span class="s1">William Thomas Smedley, Young Lady</span></div>
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dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-89286987377649602122020-09-01T04:48:00.000-07:002020-09-01T04:48:39.679-07:00Giacomo Mantegazza (1853-1920)Giacomo Mantegazza (1853-1920), Italian painter.
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<span class="s1" style="font-kerning: none;">Giacomo Mantegazza, Una serata di intrattenimento</span></div>
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<span class="s1" style="font-kerning: none;">Giacomo Mantegazza, The Secret</span></div>
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<span class="s1" style="font-kerning: none;">Giacomo Mantegazza, Frighten</span></div>
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dfordoomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-152502991915286310.post-28372703901202200702020-08-16T22:31:00.000-07:002020-08-16T22:31:30.719-07:00Adolf Seel (1829-1907)Adolf Seel, German painter
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<span class="s1" style="font-kerning: none;">Adolf Seel, Nubienne</span></div>
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