Orientalism was one of the more interesting artistic manifestations of the late 19th century. I have no desire to rehash any of the political arguments on this subject since I dislike the politicisation of art. Suffice to say that in the late 19th century European, British and American artists were obsessed by the exotic.
They were also obsessed by the erotic. The combination of the exotic and the erotic always makes for a heady brew.
Artists who flocked to North Africa and the Middle East (and sometimes further east) did not just take canvasses and their paintbrushes with them. They also took cameras.
Algérie, Jeunes Femmes Photochrome originale d'époque, Circa 1890
Algérie, Bédouines du Sud, Photochrome originale d'époque, Circa 1890
Algérie, Femmes Mauresques, Photochrome originale d'époque, Circa 1890
Algérie, Jeune Fille du Sud, Photochrome originale d'époque, Circa 1890
Algérie. Jeunes Femmes Mauresques. Photochrome originale d'époque. Circa 1891
Nu au jasmin, vers 1904
Afrique du nord au repos
Une belle fille du sud
Jeune mauresque nue
Types d'Orien
A kind of spin-off of my Strange Tears community at Livejournal, but dealing with 20th century art as well as that of the 19th century. Even some photography. You won't find any abstract art here though. There will be nudes though, so if you have a problem with that you've been warned.
Sunday, August 29, 2021
Friday, August 27, 2021
Harlots, Whores and Hookers
I hope I got you attention with the title of this post. Harlots, Whores and Hookers is an entertaining if not particularly scholarly history of prostitution. And the social history of the 19th century is one of the focuses of this blog (or at least it was intended to be one of the focuses).
He takes the story back about as far as it can be traced, to the historical rise of temple prostitution in ancient times.
He tries to be fairly even-handed, admitting abuses when they existed although it’s fairly obvious that he takes the entirely sane view that most of the abuses are either the result of attempts to prohibit prostitution, or are exacerbated by such attempts. At the time he wrote the book (1979) it still seemed possible that western societies would learn to deal with sex in a rational grown-up manner.
Much of the book is devoted to cataloguing the repeat attempts to suppress prostitution and the inevitable failure of all those attempts. Failures which usually just made things worse for everybody. Evans seems to favour the idea of legalised but government-regulated prostitution, which is at least saner than attempts at prohibition (although the argument could be made that government regulation could make things worse).
He’s not inclined to see prostitutes as victims, pointing out that for most of history prostitution was a better option for women than supposedly respectable occupations which paid a pittance. He also explodes the myth that most prostitutes come to a bad end. Some prostitutes certainly have come to a bad end, but most have eventually married and blended into respectable society and some have done very nicely for themselves.
The book does deal briefly with the subject of prostitution in the 19th century, which is of course the period that interests me most.
The book is an interesting throwback to a time when it was still possible to discuss social problems in an intelligent and reasonable way. Not a great book but not bad as a brief introduction to the subject.
The book is an interesting throwback to a time when it was still possible to discuss social problems in an intelligent and reasonable way. Not a great book but not bad as a brief introduction to the subject.
Sunday, August 22, 2021
Pierre-Gérard Carrier-Belleuse (1851-1932)
Pierre-Gérard Carrier-Belleuse (1851-1932), French painter.
Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, Femme en déshabillé vert, 1889
Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, Young Lady Adjusting her Corset, 1893
Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, La frileuse, 1894
Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, Nu sous un parasol, 1890
Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, La Première Pose, 1900
Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, Reveil
Pierre Carrier-Belleuse, Un nu, 1897
Sunday, August 15, 2021
Jean Agélou (1878-1921)
Jean Agélou (1878-1921), French photographer.
Jean Agélou, Fernande
Jean Agélou, Fernande
Jean Agélou, Serie 034 No 2
Jean Agélou, Serie 034 No 3
Jean Agélou, Seated nude smoking
Jean Agélou, Seated nude female, circa 1920
Jean Agélou, Female nude posed under a garden arch
Wednesday, August 11, 2021
Paul Désiré Trouillebert (1829-1900)
Paul Désiré Trouillebert (1829-1900), French painter.
Paul Désiré Trouillebert, The Nude Snake Charmer
Paul Désiré Trouillebert, Servante du harem (The Harem Servant Girl), 1874
Thursday, August 5, 2021
Gaudenzio Marconi (1841-1885)
Gaudenzio Marconi (1841-1885), Italian photographer. His photographs were intended to be used by art students. From the start photography’s status as an art form was a subject of debate and disagreement but there were major artists who used such photographic studies as supplements to the use of live models. Whether these photographic studies qualify as art works is perhaps also debatable but clearly they were very much in the style of fashionable painting of the era.
Are they art or erotica? It’s fair to say that they were intended as art, and function as well in that capacity as the paintings of the average second-tier painter. There is of course something about photography that makes nudity seem more graphic. Partly it’s because photographs showed things that painters tended to be coy about showing, such as female pubic hair. Which made nude photographs more shocking, especially to those who were uncomfortable with the idea that women had genitals. So photography did have a tendency to make nudity seem somehow less respectable.
And when you look at a painting of a nude you can perhaps convince yourself that you’re looking at an allegorical figure or the goddess Venus. Photographs make it a bit more obvious that one is looking at an actual nude woman. Naked goddesses are one thing, but a photograph of an actual naked woman is something else.
Photography forced people to ask themselves whether they really thought that the naked female body was obscene. For some people the answer was yes. Gaudenzio Marconi, Female nude with pictorial backdrop 1870-1879 Gaudenzio Marconi, Nude Study Gaudenzio Marconi, Nudo accademico femminile con violino Gaudenzio Marconi, Nudo femminile, circa 1870 Gaudenzio Marconi, Nudes and cherubs (putti) Gaudenzio Marconi, Nude Study
Are they art or erotica? It’s fair to say that they were intended as art, and function as well in that capacity as the paintings of the average second-tier painter. There is of course something about photography that makes nudity seem more graphic. Partly it’s because photographs showed things that painters tended to be coy about showing, such as female pubic hair. Which made nude photographs more shocking, especially to those who were uncomfortable with the idea that women had genitals. So photography did have a tendency to make nudity seem somehow less respectable.
And when you look at a painting of a nude you can perhaps convince yourself that you’re looking at an allegorical figure or the goddess Venus. Photographs make it a bit more obvious that one is looking at an actual nude woman. Naked goddesses are one thing, but a photograph of an actual naked woman is something else.
Photography forced people to ask themselves whether they really thought that the naked female body was obscene. For some people the answer was yes. Gaudenzio Marconi, Female nude with pictorial backdrop 1870-1879 Gaudenzio Marconi, Nude Study Gaudenzio Marconi, Nudo accademico femminile con violino Gaudenzio Marconi, Nudo femminile, circa 1870 Gaudenzio Marconi, Nudes and cherubs (putti) Gaudenzio Marconi, Nude Study
Wednesday, August 4, 2021
art, photography and the erotic in the 19th century
François Boucher, Portrait of Marie-Louise O'Murphy c. 1752
Photography has always had an uneasy relationship with art. From the time photography became a practical proposition in the mid 19th century it attracted the interest of artists, for various reasons. Some painters liked the idea of being able to work from photographs rather than live models, live models having a tendency to complain bitterly about having to keep still.
Artists were also interested in the potential of photography as an art form in itself. Whether photography really does (or can) qualify as art was a subject of controversy and to this day not everyone is convinced that photography is “real” art.
A major difficulty arose when the famous “box brownie” arrived on the scene. Suddenly anyone could take photographs. A means had to be found to distinguish between the snapshots taken by ordinary people and art photographs taken by “proper” artists. To be honest no-one has ever been to do that other than by saying that photographs taken by real artists are art and photographs taken by non-artists are not art. Of course there is a difference between a photograph that is art and a mere snapshot but the difference is essentially subjective. We may not be able to define art but we know it when we see it. Except that no two people see it the same way.
Félix-Jacques Antoine Moulin, Recumbent female nude, Amélie, 1852–1853
The blurry line between photos as art and photos as non-art becomes particularly problematic when we’re dealing with erotic subject matter. Erotic art is a pretty fraught subject even when we’re dealing with painting. Everyone knows that Boucher’s Portrait of Marie-Louis O’Murphy is art and a pinup painting isn’t, even though the subject matter of Boucher’s painting is just a painting of a pretty girl lounging naked on a sofa.
Maybe it’s something to do with the intention of the artist or the photographer? Surely when great painters painted naked ladies they had allegorical or symbolic intentions? Undoubtedly that’s true in many cases, but it’s not that easy to see profound meanings in Boucher’s painting. Of course it’s possible that when M. Boucher asked Mademoiselle O’Murphy to disrobe and take up her pose he was immediately overcome by the desire to create great art that would offer profound spiritual insights into the meaning of life. Or maybe he was just overcome by awe at the young lady’s beauty. Perhaps he exclaimed, “Sacre bleu, what a magnificent opportunity for allegory.” Or perhaps he just exclaimed, “Sacre bleu, what a delicious derriere.”
Sometimes a beautiful nude girl is just a beautiful nude girl, even when painted by an artist.
When it comes to erotic photography things get tricky. Obviously a painting of a pretty girl lounging naked on a sofa is art but what about a photograph of more or less the same subject? Is it art if the photographer went to art school? Is it more OK if it’s a really old photograph? Is Félix-Jacques Moulin’s daguerrotype of a naked young lady acceptable in a way that a 1960s centrefold is not? People at the time didn’t think do, since Moulin went to prison for taking such photographs. François Boucher did not go to prison for painting Mlle O’Murphy without her clothes on.
Maybe it’s the technical or aesthetic quality of the image. As paintings of naked females go Boucher’s is unquestionably very very good. He was a very technically accomplished painter. But many of the photographers who took photos for girlie magazines in the 1950s and 1960s were very technically accomplished photographers. Boucher’s painting is well composed and aesthetically pleasing. But it’s difficult to deny that the centrefold shown here is also well composed and aesthetically pleasing. In both cases the object was to emphasis the attractiveness of the young lady’s posterior and I think both Boucher and the 1960s photographer managed to do that.
Is the desire to celebrate female beauty an insufficient justification for art? Clearly art can do many other things besides celebrate feminine beauty, but does that mean that paintings or photographs that are primarily or solely concerned with the celebration of female beauty cannot be art?
For the past century or so we have become accustomed to the idea that important art should be ugly and unpleasant and have a political purpose. Is it possible that it’s OK for art to celebrate beauty?
What all this rambling is leading up to is that I’m intending to do a lot more posts on the subject of 19th century and early 20th century photography. Since in my opinion the most interesting photographs of that era were photographs of women and those photographs are very often somewhat erotic (or even very erotic). Some of the images will undoubtedly occupy that uncomfortable “is it erotic art or is it just erotica” region.
Photography has always had an uneasy relationship with art. From the time photography became a practical proposition in the mid 19th century it attracted the interest of artists, for various reasons. Some painters liked the idea of being able to work from photographs rather than live models, live models having a tendency to complain bitterly about having to keep still.
Artists were also interested in the potential of photography as an art form in itself. Whether photography really does (or can) qualify as art was a subject of controversy and to this day not everyone is convinced that photography is “real” art.
A major difficulty arose when the famous “box brownie” arrived on the scene. Suddenly anyone could take photographs. A means had to be found to distinguish between the snapshots taken by ordinary people and art photographs taken by “proper” artists. To be honest no-one has ever been to do that other than by saying that photographs taken by real artists are art and photographs taken by non-artists are not art. Of course there is a difference between a photograph that is art and a mere snapshot but the difference is essentially subjective. We may not be able to define art but we know it when we see it. Except that no two people see it the same way.
Félix-Jacques Antoine Moulin, Recumbent female nude, Amélie, 1852–1853
The blurry line between photos as art and photos as non-art becomes particularly problematic when we’re dealing with erotic subject matter. Erotic art is a pretty fraught subject even when we’re dealing with painting. Everyone knows that Boucher’s Portrait of Marie-Louis O’Murphy is art and a pinup painting isn’t, even though the subject matter of Boucher’s painting is just a painting of a pretty girl lounging naked on a sofa.
Maybe it’s something to do with the intention of the artist or the photographer? Surely when great painters painted naked ladies they had allegorical or symbolic intentions? Undoubtedly that’s true in many cases, but it’s not that easy to see profound meanings in Boucher’s painting. Of course it’s possible that when M. Boucher asked Mademoiselle O’Murphy to disrobe and take up her pose he was immediately overcome by the desire to create great art that would offer profound spiritual insights into the meaning of life. Or maybe he was just overcome by awe at the young lady’s beauty. Perhaps he exclaimed, “Sacre bleu, what a magnificent opportunity for allegory.” Or perhaps he just exclaimed, “Sacre bleu, what a delicious derriere.”
Sometimes a beautiful nude girl is just a beautiful nude girl, even when painted by an artist.
When it comes to erotic photography things get tricky. Obviously a painting of a pretty girl lounging naked on a sofa is art but what about a photograph of more or less the same subject? Is it art if the photographer went to art school? Is it more OK if it’s a really old photograph? Is Félix-Jacques Moulin’s daguerrotype of a naked young lady acceptable in a way that a 1960s centrefold is not? People at the time didn’t think do, since Moulin went to prison for taking such photographs. François Boucher did not go to prison for painting Mlle O’Murphy without her clothes on.
Maybe it’s the technical or aesthetic quality of the image. As paintings of naked females go Boucher’s is unquestionably very very good. He was a very technically accomplished painter. But many of the photographers who took photos for girlie magazines in the 1950s and 1960s were very technically accomplished photographers. Boucher’s painting is well composed and aesthetically pleasing. But it’s difficult to deny that the centrefold shown here is also well composed and aesthetically pleasing. In both cases the object was to emphasis the attractiveness of the young lady’s posterior and I think both Boucher and the 1960s photographer managed to do that.
Is the desire to celebrate female beauty an insufficient justification for art? Clearly art can do many other things besides celebrate feminine beauty, but does that mean that paintings or photographs that are primarily or solely concerned with the celebration of female beauty cannot be art?
For the past century or so we have become accustomed to the idea that important art should be ugly and unpleasant and have a political purpose. Is it possible that it’s OK for art to celebrate beauty?
What all this rambling is leading up to is that I’m intending to do a lot more posts on the subject of 19th century and early 20th century photography. Since in my opinion the most interesting photographs of that era were photographs of women and those photographs are very often somewhat erotic (or even very erotic). Some of the images will undoubtedly occupy that uncomfortable “is it erotic art or is it just erotica” region.
Sunday, August 1, 2021
Félicien Rops (1833-1898)
Félicien Rops (1833-1898), Belgian Symbolist painter, illustrator and print maker.
Félicien Rops, La Dame au pantin, 1885
Félicien Rops, title unknown
Félicien Rops, Appel Aux Masses!
Félicien Rops, Diaboli Virtus In Lumbis, 1888
Félicien Rops, La Pudeur de Sodome
Félicien Rops, In the Wings, 1878-1880
Félicien Rops, Le paravent
Félicien Rops, Parisian Masks, heliogravure
Félicien Rops, title unknown
Félicien Rops,
Félicien Rops, Prostitution and Madness Rule the World. ca.1887-1893, heliogravure
Félicien Rops, Cent légers croquis sans prétention pour réjouir les honnêtes gens, 1878-1881.
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